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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 13, 2011 7:28am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: and no-one flies around the sun....

Overhead the albatross hangs motionless upon the air, and deep beneath the rolling waves in labyriniths of coral caves, the echo of distant tide comes willowing across the sand, and everything is green and submarine, and no-one called us to the land, and no-one knows the wheres or why but something stirs and something tries, and starts to climb towards the light. Strangers passing on the street, by chance two seperate glances meet and i am you and what i see is me, and do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help you understand the best i can,and no-one calls us to move on , and no-one forces down our eyes, and no-one speaks and no-one tries, and no-one flies around the sun, Cloudless everyday, you fall upon my waking eyes inviting me and inciting me to rise, and through the window in the wall, come streaming in on sunlight wings a millon bright ambasadors of morning, and no-one sings me lullabies, and no one makes me close my eyes, and so i throw the windows wide , and call to you across the sky

Echoes
words and music by Pink Floyd

looking for info anecdotes on Zabriskie Park. , I have a rip of the soundtrack no accompining info .
What did Garcia think of the project ?
a bio link is what i want to check out i guess, and opinions regarding The grateful deads involvement w/ pink floyd. are there hidden gems out there not on a label?

This post was modified by hippie64 on 2011-09-13 14:19:53

This post was modified by hippie64 on 2011-09-13 14:28:33

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Poster: duckpond74 Date: Sep 13, 2011 8:09am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....

"are there hidden gems out there not on a label? " Turner Classics / Rhino Movie Music put out a 2 CD version a while back that has a second disc of outtakes. That disc is an hour long and consists of four tracks of Garcia playing solo electric - improvisations running from folk song simplicity to feedback and hints at Dark Star. The rest of the disc is a mixed bag of four tracks from Pink Floyd - the acoustic/electric 'Unknown Song' and the 'piano down the hall sound' of 'Love Scene - version 4' are welcome additions to my Pink Floyd preferences. The 'Love Scene - version 6' is a straight ahead electric blues tune. There are likely more outtakes out there, but if you have a rip of only the original lp length soundtrack, you might want to check out this 2 CD edition.

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Poster: craven714 Date: Sep 13, 2011 7:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....

Not sure about the GD or JG connection that you are looking
for, but I did come across this a few months ago.
I dont want to post the site straight out, but if you
contact me at this user name and that @YaHoo Dot stuff,
I would be happy to help you get it. That is if you
dont already know about the TUBE. lemme know. Go Buckeyes

6/03/2011
Pink Floyd - 1970-03-00 - The Lost Zabriskie Point Album (FLAC)
(Studio FLAC)
01. Heart Beat, Pig Meat - 3:10
02. Country Song - 4:40
03. Fingal's Cave - 1:54
04. Crumbling Land - 5:55
05. Alan's Blues - 5:44
06. Oenone - 6:51
07. Rain in the Country - 6:53
08. Come in Number 51, Your Time Is Up - 5:02

Note it makes in Total 40:09 (inclosed some blank seconds in between the songs).

Notes by the uploader/trader:
This is the soundtrack album for Zabriskie Point that never was, one performed entirely by Pink Floyd, now released by MQR.

This album is the natural product of years and years of passionate research applied to the Zabriskie Point topic by WRomanus. Over the years many theories have been presented, and we all know a good researcher has to prove his theories whenever possible. In recent years his dedication has yielded the deserved prizes.

"I had the luck to get from Glenn Povey what I call simply The Document, part of the ZP recording sheets of EMI studios. I was also able to make contact with Don Hall, the Music Adviser of the movie. I'm honoured to say that this contact became a real friendship. With my great satisfaction almost all my theories, even the most incredible, were confirmed."

This Album is part of the Complete Zabriskie Point Collection and The Box called A Total Zabriskie Point of View. We share it in advance to highlight this very important find of Pink Floyd's career.

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 13, 2011 8:20am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....



Thank you craven714.

The Buckeyes are going to take there lumps for sure, and have already considering the scandals swept under the rug in the southern schools and out west. its all about money anyways , the term amateur sports barely exist anymore ,Companies like ESPN will either get your name on the dotted line or do what they can to see you go down. kirk herbstriet is a disgrace and I'm grateful for my big 10 network. Hopefully we can stem the tide till our players get back from suspension, and from there continue the proud tradition of the 'scarlet and grey"

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Poster: wisconsindead Date: Sep 13, 2011 2:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....

my first dark star

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 13, 2011 7:52am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....



this is beautiful ,, I'm saauming the peice was never done live , but perhaps pieces made its way into jams as the music progressed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Ng-_fPwV9E

part mountian jam , part MOTM , part dark star

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Poster: Jack o' Roses Date: Sep 13, 2011 9:13am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....

never done live? which song?

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Poster: hippie64 Date: Sep 13, 2011 11:32am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....

I was asking here if "love scenes' was performed by garcia live, or performed with The GD live.

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Poster: polarized blue Date: Sep 13, 2011 1:06pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: and no-one flies around the sun....

I've got the dvd of Pink Floyd live at Pompei, it's a great performance film.

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Poster: light into ashes Date: Sep 13, 2011 8:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Garcia & Zabriskie

The Grateful Dead were never involved with Pink Floyd, unfortunately. I don't think they ever met, nor said a word about each other.
Garcia was invited to record for Zabriskie Point independently of them; he went down to record at the MGM Studios in Los Angeles.

Garcia was thrilled at the chance, as he admired Antonioni's films, such as Eclipse. "I like his work so much. It's so modern — his sense of space and time and all that." He said he liked working with Antonioni. (Zabriskie Point turned out to be a rather clumsy film, but earlier films like Eclipse & Red Desert were pretty mind-blowing.)

Garcia only recorded for the one "love scene," a few takes. From Blair Jackson's site:
"There I was on the old MGM scoring stage where they used to do Gene Kelly musicals and The Wizard of Oz — just me and my electric guitar and a little amplifier. And Antonioni's back there [in the control room] with one engineer, and the scene is playing on a huge screen, and I'm picking along, trying to get my ideas.
I sat down and just played, and [Antonioni] said, 'Oh, I like that very, very much. That's very, very good.' And I said, 'Hey, wait a minute. C'mon, give me a chance!' And he said, 'Oh no, no. That's exactly what I want!' I wanted so badly to do something good because, well, it was Antonioni for chrissakes! He was satisfied so quickly I didn't know what to think. I was unhappy about it. I was just getting warmed up and, boom, that was it."

Don Hall, who was recording, said Garcia first tried it on acoustic guitar, then did four different takes, two of which were fused into the final music for the film. "I think Jerry was actually down for about three hours. And he was great to work with; everybody thought so." The outtakes on the Zabriskie 2-CD set are probably about all there is.

I'm not sure what Antonioni's tastes in music were, but the music supervisor for Zabriskie Point had excellent taste, as it's a superb soundtrack - even has a little Dark Star in there!

There are a lot of Pink Floyd outtakes from Zabriskie Point, something like 2 CDs' worth; though it's mainly different tryouts of just a few tunes, it's easily my favorite post-Syd Floyd studio work. (The official Zabriskie edition is just a sampler, really.)
Pink Floyd were rather dubious of their efforts, as no matter how they played a song, Antonioni would tell them that it wasn't quite right! So that's one reason there are so many different versions of the songs, and numerous approaches to the "love scene" - all of which he rejected, which is why Garcia got called.

(As a trivia note, Garcia never got paid for his work on Zabriskie. The check was sent, but Lenny Hart stole it! This was the incident where the Dead finally realized Lenny was pocketing their money; when they confronted him, he fled to Mexico.)

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Poster: Incornsyucopia Date: Sep 13, 2011 10:00am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Garcia & Zabriskie

Thanks for bringing this up LIA. I saw the film years ago when I was first getting into the Dead (having already been a huge Floyd fan for a few years at that point) and thought the music added a lot to it. The lack of relation (at least explicitly) between the Dead and Floyd that you bring up is interesting given that they were each, in many ways, the definitive and certainly longest lasting groups of their respective psychedelic music scenes, which were the two most significant ones. They make for a fascinating comparison in many ways given the very different roads they took: both heavily influenced by the Post-War avant-garde, but the Dead holding on to their dance band, improvisatory roots right till the end, whereas Floyd at an early point was moving away from its dance band, more free form beginnings towards a kind of Wagnerian Gesamtkunstwerk, concert experience. They're already gesturing towards it in this interview from 1967: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zs-tSn-T5TQ. The apotheosis of this, of course, comes with their tour of The Wall in 1981 when apparently the only unscripted moments (at least according to David Gilmour) were during his solos on top of the wall during "Comfortably Numb."

However, I have this vague recollection of Garcia comparing the two groups in an interview that I read in a book in a book store years ago and I wish to this day I'd bought. (Unless of course the memory is a creation of my then very acid-fueled imagination!) It was something to the effect that the Dead were working towards a subjective psychedelic experience in comparison to Floyd's more objective variety. I may well have imagined this as I've been searching for the interview for years and haven't been able to find it again, but it is a fairly perceptive insight into the two groups' differences.

Any one know of this or have any further thoughts?